« Last post by afederalrepublican1776 on January 31, 2016, 05:52:41 pm »
They should of read 21-75-3 / Dismounted patrolling first. Piss poor planning.
There are some lessons learned here:
1. If you provoke an armed encounter with the authorities, you’re going to get an armed encounter with the authorities. They can’t and won’t back down; they understand that any loss of face risks a collapse in the social order, so they will meet such a challenge every time.
2. Cue the late Bobby Fuller: LaVoy Finicum fought the law, and the law won. Regardless of who did what, he’s still dead, and there were many times he could have made a decision that would not have left him dead, regardless of what the FBI did or intended. (Except for the occasional sociopath who slips through, and contrary to what a lot of Bundy supporters seem to think about them, Special Agents are not fangs-out hoping to kill anybody).
3. The FBI, and most agencies, need more post-shooting transparency. Don’t believe us? Mental exercise: this shootout happens in Chicago or NYFC, and LaVoy and his crew are black gangbangers. What would The Reverends be saying by now? How would the Post and the Times be covering it? In this case, the Bureau lucks out: the national media sympathize with the FBI because the criminals are the media’s favorite boogeymen. Ask Wilson Goode what the media does when the criminal movement (in his case, MOVE) are minority members and your cops whack ’em.
4. Absence of information (and media fabrications to fill the 24-hour news cycle in this absence) is the fertilizer that makes conspiracy theories grow. Conspiracy theories lead to people’s estrangement from ordinary society. Estrangement leads to “compounds” and standoffs. If you’re The Law®. you should want to disincentivize that process of estrangement and incentivize normal, rational paths of dispute resolution.
5. Administrative law is increasingly looking lawless, with its administrative “courts” a rubber stamp, not a normal, rational path of dispute resolution.
BTW I read the SHTF book by Finicum:
It's a pretty good example of the genre, if you can get by the constitutionalist mindset (it's not too overbearing in that respect). Also gives curious people a look into how he thought about things. I don't think demonizing him will work very well.
Lucy had graduated from high school and normal school with honors. Of the several opportunities open to her she had chosen one of welfare work among the backwoods people. It was not exactly missionary work, as her employers belonged to a department of the state government. Her duty was to go among the poor families of the wilderness and help them to make better homes... The fact that she had the welfare department behind her, and could use to reasonable extent funds for the betterment of these primitive people, was something of far greater importance."
I got into watching old black and white John Wayne movies for a while. I liked them but was shocked how often he played a federal agent. The indoctrination was going on even in 1950.
There won't be as long as panem et circenses continue.
As an aside most mid-century cinematic Westerns tend to be collectivist wet dreams that lionize the government and the gun.