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Evolution / Re: Mrs. Mezvinsky's Evolution
« Last post by pelletfarmer on July 17, 2014, 07:15:22 am »
No danger of a Ms Clinton presidency. She's a loose cannon, terrible temper, and can't keep her mouth shut. Piss poor liar besides. The puppet masters want better tools.

I remember the early campaign in '76.  I was positively sure, and was willing to say so, that there was no chance whatsoever that Jimmy Carter would be the nominee.  President was beyond imagination.  I would've bet any amount, at any odds.

That's when I learned logic and politics don't mix.
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Evolution / Re: Mrs. Mezvinsky's Evolution
« Last post by Bill on July 15, 2014, 08:13:17 am »
That is fascinating but no surprise.
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Burr is one of my antiheroes and I recommend Gore Vidal's novel by the same name.

Vidal's series of historical fiction on the rise of America is far more accurate than the sludge fed by the court historians in the mind gulags in these united States.

http://www.amazon.com/Gore-Vidal/e/B000APYCG8/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
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Evolution / Re: Mrs. Mezvinsky's Evolution
« Last post by MamaLiberty on July 15, 2014, 07:46:35 am »
No danger of a Ms Clinton presidency. She's a loose cannon, terrible temper, and can't keep her mouth shut. Piss poor liar besides. The puppet masters want better tools.
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A couple of days late, but still a good read...

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On July 11, 1804, two leading U.S. politicians overreacted to personal insults between them. That doesn't sound out of the ordinary considering the divisiveness among politicians in today's government, except then-Vice President Aaron Burr and former Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton settled the issue with an armed duel to the death.

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Burr, surviving unscathed, mortally wounded Hamilton, who died the next day in New York City. He immediately faced legal consequences for his actions. Since Hamilton's death took place in New York, he was charged with both the misdemeanor of challenging to a duel and the felony of murder. He faced the same felony charge in New Jersey.

The vice president of the United States found himself a fugitive for murder in two states, and fled to Pennsylvania and then Georgia. "There is a contention of a singular nature between the two States of New York and New Jersey," Burr wrote to his daughter. "The subject in dispute is, which shall have the honor of hanging the Vice-President. You shall have due notice of time and place. Whenever it may be, you may rely on a great concourse of company, much gayety, and many rare sights."

Here's an interesting piece of history...

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Burr later stood trial for treason for allegedly leading efforts to establish an independent country at the Mississippi River from U.S. and Spanish territories, although he was acquitted.

http://www.businessinsider.com/aaron-burr-dueled-alexander-hamilton-this-day-in-1804-2014-7
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Evolution / Mrs. Mezvinsky's Evolution
« Last post by pelletfarmer on July 14, 2014, 09:45:22 pm »
As I don't believe facebook links work well, below is pasted the text which I first saw here...

https://www.facebook.com/jean24601valjean/posts/10152552356909941?comment_id=10152553498829941&offset=0&total_comments=2&notif_t=share_reply

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Do You Know This Guy?

He is Edward "Ed" Mezvinsky, born January 17, 1937.
Then you'll probably say, "Who is Ed Mezvinsky?"

Well, he is a former Democrat congressman who represented Iowa's 1st congressional district in the United States House of Representatives for two terms, from 1973 to 1977.

He sat on the House Judiciary Committee that decided
the fate of Richard Nixon.

He was outspoken saying that Nixon was a crook and a disgrace to politics and the nation and should be impeached.

He and the Clintons were friends and very politically
intertwined for many years.

Ed Mezvinsky had an affair with NBC News reporter Marjorie Sue Margolies and later married her after his wife divorced him.

In 1993, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, then a freshman Democrat in Congress, cast the deciding vote that got President Bill Clinton's controversial tax package through the House of Representatives.

In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 counts of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.

Ed Mezvinsky embezzled more than $10 million dollars from people via both a Ponzi scheme and the notorious Nigerian e-mail scams.

He was found guilty and sentenced to 80 months in federal prison.

After serving less than five years in federal prison, he was released in April 2008 and remains on federal probation.

To this day, he still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.

About now you are saying, "So what!"

Well, this is Marc and Chelsea Mezvinsky.

That's right; Ed Mezvinsky is Chelsea Clinton's father-in law.

Now Marc and Chelsea are in their early thirties and purchased a 10.5 million dollar NYC apartment (after being married in George Soros' mansion).

Has anyone heard mention of any of this in any of the media?

If this guy was Jenna or Barbara Bush's, or better yet, Sarah Palin's daughter's father-in- law, the news would be an everyday headline and every detail would be reported over and over.

And yet liberals say there are no double standards in political reporting.

And people are already talking about Hillary as our next President!

And then there is possibly Chelsea for president in our future!

The cycle never ends!

Lying and corruption seem to make Democrat candidates more popular.
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General Discussion / Epic
« Last post by pelletfarmer on July 14, 2014, 09:28:47 pm »
Seems Rick Santelli had quite a day.  Hey, the guy bore the Tea Party; maybe this is him bearing the Awakening.  The first two are short classic rants--note the applause when he says "THIS," meaning the actual MARKET, had absolutely nothing to do with the credit crunch (or first part of the depression).  Notice how proud they are to be that way, too.  All important points IMO.  The last is his own "Santelli Exchange," also fairly short and just a simple demonstration of what the good is, and isn't.

Classic and important stuff.  I'd like to think the servers would crash in a few days from over-popularity, but instead the Mezvinskys will be spending their second ten million dollars, while some of us are getting shot.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-14/santelli-goes-berserk-slams-fed-which-was-not-created-be-feel-good-institution
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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by aakelley on July 14, 2014, 03:43:03 pm »
I missed this at Porcfest but did just finish watching the video.  I just heard about porcfest a little over a year ago and just attended the one a few weeks ago as my first.  I will be back, but its things like this that will keep me less interested in really getting involved in the FSP (at least in NH...still looking into the "splinter" group in Wyoming and may make it out to their version of Porcfest next year).

Overall I think Cantwell (they guy that started it...this time) should be able to say what he wants but also has to realize that there are consequences to actions - even speech.  I think Larken has a much better / balanced view on this ("not sure, but sometime before the cattle car door starts to close").

The thing I find missing from the whole discussion is the more clear and present danger that everyone faces every day: government schools and mainstream media.  Cops are a tool of last resort for those who want to rule.  They would much prefer to have a herd that willingly submits and they do this through schools and media.  Although the consequences of a bad run in with a cop are serious, its still,all things considered, a pretty unlikely occurrence (becoming more likely unfortunately).  Being mentally attacked by a teacher or the media happens to almost everyone every day.

I am all for knowing how to defend yourself physically, but we should be preparing for the more likely and learning how to defend ourselves mentally.  Intellectual self defense through things like critical thinking / the trivium should be the first line of defense - but it always pays to have a backup plan.
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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by jamie on July 13, 2014, 10:49:33 pm »
Larken Rose never disappoints.  Josie was good too.
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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by pelletfarmer on July 13, 2014, 06:24:17 pm »
> Doesn't the FSP board realize that they're promoting violence with their own mission statement?

My guess is...no, they don't.  Almost nobody would see that.  It's the same ol' thing...things become what we make of their concepts, not what they are.  Supposedly, "violence" and "civilization" are opposites; if you've got civilization then you don't have violence.  And everyone knows what civilization looks like---it's fancy buildings and lots of uniforms.

Pretty slick, really...make violence popular, simply by calling it not-violence.
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