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General Discussion / Re: Farm Start
« Last post by usarmyretiredsgm on July 12, 2014, 08:14:56 am »
Dena bought 4 more heifers yesterday, 3 Dexters and one with a mix calf.  The other two are also pregnant.  We will sell the 3 mixed calves once weaned to recover a bit of the outlay.  That will leave us with 8 registered Dexter heifers.  We will start off by keeping all heifer calves until we have 15 breeding stock.

Going home tonight on R&R for two weeks.  We will go pick up the other two Black gilt hogs and one boar to round out the pig herd, gaggle, or whatever the heck a group of pigs is called.
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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by MamaLiberty on July 09, 2014, 09:35:21 am »
No point in me trying to watch the video, but it doesn't sound as if I'm missing anything.

No, the FSP was never a good idea in my mind. I want to work for a society where anyone can opt out of any government... not take it over and force others to endure their version of it. Let each one choose for him/herself - free to change their mind any time.

If you'd like a better option for next year, plan to come to the Free State Wyoming Jamboree. Not much "organization," no officers, no hierarchy or "board," no FSW political agenda (though some members are active locally), no bylaws or platform, no formal meetings, dues or quotas or any of the rest of it. Just neighbors being good neighbors and looking for more good neighbors, willing to help each other at need, and mind our own business unless asked. You don't have to move to Wyoming either, though that's usually more convenient for the mutual help part. :) We have a very active "Appleseed" bunch, and almost everyone shoots one way or another.

And I know the folks would be tickled to have you speak next year, Bill. We had two this year and enjoyed them both.
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I think unintentionally that very point came out at the very end of the debate due to that guy asking questions. That is... this whole issue of them having a policy against violence and not associating with people who promote it, but they allow minarchist members, voters, politicians, police, *insert whoever here* etc to attend events. I even know of one instance of a guy who took issue with government police job postings in an FSP job board and they jumped all over him about it, defending the cop job postings in the FSP outlet.

I think this may be a new issue the Larken Rose camp may latch onto to show hypocrisy
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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by Chris on July 09, 2014, 03:38:31 am »
I thought Carla Gericke was especially awful in that discussion. It reminded me of the She-talk live days when her and Stephanie Murphy would ruin 3 hours of radio by sitting around and giggling like a bunch of idiots. I really can't believe Carla is the president of the FSP; what a terrible choice that was. Larken definitely had a look of disgust on his face when Carla said, "so you're Israel?"


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I mean, I'm sure their brand of freedom is way better than most of the other brands, but anyone who thinks freedom will appear by brand, is missing something very critical IMO.

I'm sure it is too, Jim. Heck they've got a FSP board and all. It's quite official. But, nothing's more odd to me than a bunch of minarchists opposing the use of violence. Doesn't the FSP board realize that they're promoting violence with their own mission statement? Maximum role of government is to....

Finally, I was totally underwhelmed with Josie. Perhaps she should stick with videos, because debate really ain't her thing.
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My ears didnt even hear the FSP people actually engage in the debate topic, they pretty much just defended their right to exclude people talking about the topic. I dont think anyone denied that so...it was sort of pointless. Larken and Josie basically were the only ones getting applause.
I read on Facebook that Larken is semi-retiring and is taking a break from speaking and radio appearances, etc. I fear it is because of the course of the movement on this issue.

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General Discussion / Re: Alt Expo @ Porcfest 2014 Use of Force Debate
« Last post by pelletfarmer on July 08, 2014, 04:12:03 pm »
Thanks for that.  I think it's a fascinating and important topic.  I've only seen the first third or so, but so far I'm dismayed, and nearly disgusted, at the FSP rationalizations and excuses.  So far, to me anyway, it sounds like the pragmatic collectivist drivel that so well defines today's commie-libs.

If the rest is like that, and even though it sounds like some great things are happening there, at least I'll only have 3 directions from which to choose.  "East" didn't sound so appealing anyway.  I mean, I'm sure their brand of freedom is way better than most of the other brands, but anyone who thinks freedom will appear by brand, is missing something very critical IMO.
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General Discussion / Re: cool sign
« Last post by freeman on July 07, 2014, 11:04:09 pm »
Not very "grey man".
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General Discussion / Re: cool sign
« Last post by MamaLiberty on July 07, 2014, 12:17:17 pm »
Yeah, that's one reason I didn't post my favorite one.
Can't find the picture now, but a big .45 is facing the camera and around the muzzle it says:

SMILE - Wait for Flash!



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